[DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME?
Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Tue, 20 September 2016 16:17 UTC
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Subject: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME?
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Do you like long terminology discussions, backed by a dozen RFC, where people disagree on what's written in these RFC? If so, read on. This issue was spotted by Peter van Dijk. It is about draft-ietf-dnsop-nxdomain-cut-05, recently approved by IESG. The problem is the definition of "QNAME" when there is a CNAME chain. Section 1.1 says: > "Denied name": the domain name whose existence has been denied by a > response of rcode NXDOMAIN. In most cases, it is the QNAME but, > because of [RFC6604], it is not always the case. And section 2: > Warning: if there is a chain of CNAME (or DNAME), the name which > does not exist is the last of the chain ([RFC6604]) and not the > QNAME. The NXDOMAIN stored in the cache is for the denied name, not > always for the QNAME. This text in draft-ietf-dnsop-nxdomain-cut-05 assumes that the QNAME is the owner name in the Question Section. But RFC 2308 thinks otherwise: > "QNAME" - the name in the query section of an answer, or where this > resolves to a CNAME, or CNAME chain, the data field of the last > CNAME. RFC 1034 had a different definition of QNAME but is not clear on the specific case of CNAME chains: > A standard query specifies a target domain name (QNAME) RFC 7719 does not define QNAME (probably because it seemed obvious). So, which is right? In this DNS query: % dig A www.afnic.fr ; <<>> DiG 9.10.3-P4-Ubuntu <<>> A www.afnic.fr ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 35551 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1280 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.afnic.fr. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.afnic.fr. 213 IN CNAME www.nic.fr. www.nic.fr. 213 IN CNAME lb01-1.nic.fr. lb01-1.nic.fr. 213 IN A 192.134.5.24 ;; Query time: 875 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.43.1#53(192.168.43.1) ;; WHEN: Tue Sep 20 18:11:06 CEST 2016 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 100 Is the QNAME "www.afnic.fr" or "lb01-1.nic.fr" ("the data field of the last CNAME")???
- [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Robert Edmonds
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Robert Edmonds
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Ólafur Guðmundsson
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Matt Larson
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Robert Edmonds
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Robert Edmonds
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Shumon Huque
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Shumon Huque
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Where in a CNAME chain is the QNAME? Robert Edmonds