Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology-03
"Paul Hoffman" <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Thu, 16 July 2015 02:15 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology-03
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On 15 Jul 2015, at 17:33, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 03:43:12PM -0400, Casey Deccio wrote: >> I am also concerned about the apparent urgency to get the initial >> document >> out with points that admittedly remain contentious and/or where there >> isn't >> WG consensus. I don't think it needs perfection, but it seems >> unnecessary >> to get the document published without further explicitly identifying >> and >> considering the standing issues. We've haven't had this document >> before--I'm not sure what the rush is now. > > Just on this issue, and speaking only for myself (but as one of the > people behind this document), my view is that this WG has historically > been one of the places where documents go to die, and I am unwilling > to go through the exercise of proving again how great an enemy of the > good the perfect can be. I'd be much more inclined to remove the > contentious definitions and publish that document than to try to get > things perfect. > > I agree and acknowledge that there remain some definitions in there > that are contentious. Not only do you agree and acknowledge that, *so does the document*. Based on the contention and lack of consensus for some of the definitions, the Introduction now says: During the development of this document, it became clear that some DNS-related terms are interpreted quite differently by different DNS experts. Further, some terms that are defined in early DNS RFCs now have definitions that are generally agreed to that are different from the original definitions. Therefore, the authors intend to follow this document with a substantial revision in the not-distant future. That revision will probably have more in-depth discussion of some terms as well as new terms; it will also update some of the RFCs with new definitions. If there is something more that can be said in the document, by all means let us know. --Paul Hoffman
- [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminol… Casey Deccio
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… Chris Thompson
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… Casey Deccio
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… Casey Deccio
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… John Dickinson
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… John Dickinson
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… Sara Dickinson
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-term… joel jaeggli