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Re: [DNSOP] RFC 1035 vs. mandatory NS at apex?

"Peter van Dijk" <peter.van.dijk@powerdns.com> Thu, 07 February 2019 16:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] RFC 1035 vs. mandatory NS at apex?
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On 7 Feb 2019, at 16:55, Ted Lemon wrote:

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 10:48 AM, Bob Harold <rharolde@umich.edu> wrote:
>> If we write it down, perhaps we should also mention that other things 
>> that answer DNS queries, like load balancers, should also return 
>> proper SOA and NS records, not just A and AAAA records,  for the same 
>> reasons.
>
> Are they currently returning no error/no data?

Yes, many do. Others do not respond at all (i.e., timeout).

Case in point: https://github.com/dns-violations/dnsflagday/issues/73

Kind regards,
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Peter van Dijk
PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/

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