Re: [DNSOP] Priming query transport selection
Jaap Akkerhuis <jaap@NLnetLabs.nl> Wed, 13 January 2010 22:02 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Priming query transport selection
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What does a DNSSEC-protected priming query gain you? I was about to ask the same question. Accepting any old priming query and having a root SEP configured, if the query is right all things work. If the query is wrong/forged you won't get anywhere any how. (Without going into the weeds here - what if one IP address were forged, what if it were 6, 16, or all of them?) (13 name servers => 13 A records + 7 AAAA records last check) Besides the warm and fuzzy feeling, what do you gain? (Keep in mind all of the TCP traffic it would take to get warm and fuzzy.) I think that this is also discussed in Koch's priming draft. jaap
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