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Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-02.txt

Ralf Weber <dns@fl1ger.de> Wed, 28 July 2021 18:02 UTC

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From: Ralf Weber <dns@fl1ger.de>
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 20:02:34 +0200
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-02.txt
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Moin!

On 28 Jul 2021, at 18:03, Paul Wouters wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2021, Ralf Weber wrote:
>>>  First, as Mark said, sibling glue is sometimes needed.
>> It is only needed for broken circular dependancies, which we don’t care about.
>
> They are not broken until you decide "we don't care about" :)
I don’t think I was the only one ;-).

> We will look at improving the wording in the draft. The draft is not
> about changing the rules of glue - we just thought to include some of
> it to help implementers and to help explain why it is important to set
> TC=1 even if you think it is harmless to not include some or all glue.
That is something I can agree to. If the glues you as an authoritative
server want to put in a UDP packet don’t fit you SHOULD or MUST set TC=1.

However adding sibling glue is optional, but MUST in the current draft.

So long
-Ralf
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Ralf Weber

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