Re: [DNSOP] Adam Roach's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Wed, 10 October 2018 11:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Adam Roach's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On 10/9/2018 3:33 PM, Adam Roach wrote:
> That's a fair point. I still believe that this arrangement makes the 
> situation as it pertains to URL RRs worse rather than better, but I'm 
> willing to call myself in the rough here. If another AD sees fit to 
> DISCUSS this issue, I will support them. But I'll clear my own discuss 
> now, as it seems that we've reached a difference of opinions regarding 
> harm rather than demonstrable harm.


Thanks!

d/

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Dave Crocker
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