Re: [DNSOP] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis-05: (with DISCUSS)

joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> Thu, 07 January 2016 15:39 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis-05: (with DISCUSS)
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It is intended as ps, given the changes I think advancement to IS is
not warrented notwithstanding wide deployment.

The duration of the last call looks to be my bad and I will have to
correct that.

joel

On 1/6/16 8:55 AM, Mankin, Allison wrote:
> Alvaro,
> 
> The draft aims for PS, not IS. I think you've found an XML editing bug on our part. We wouldn't expect to go IS, given this bis includes new material. So this was a great catch.
> 
> Thanks,
> Allison
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 11:43, Alvaro Retana <aretana@cisco.com> wrote:
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>> Alvaro Retana has entered the following ballot position for
>> draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis-05: Discuss
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>> DISCUSS:
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>> I don’t have concerns over the technical content of this document, but I
>> do have want to raise a process-related DISCUSS.
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>> The Intended RFC Status of this document is “Internet Standard”, which
>> seems like a logical progression from RFC5966 (Proposed Standard). 
>> However, I am concerned that the proper process was not followed:
>>
>> 1. RFC6410 calls for “an IETF-wide Last Call of at least four weeks”, but
>> the LS started on Nov/23 and ended on Dec/7, 2 weeks.
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>> 2. In looking at the archives I couldn’t find any discussion about
>> changing the maturity level.
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>> 3. It also concerns me that the changes go beyond a simple revision of
>> the old text.  For example, there are recommendations that are completely
>> new and for topics that were not even mentioned in the original (e.g.
>> pipelining).
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>> I may have missed the discussions in the archive.  Not being a DNS expert
>> I may also be overestimating the changes to this document. But knowing
>> that the “document was actively discussed and reviewed” and that it “had
>> a broad discussion as the wording of several points were more accurately
>> described” (from the Shepherd’s write up), I think that this document may
>> not be ready to be an Internet Standard.
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>> The obvious solution to this DISCUSS is to change the intended status to
>> Proposed Standard.
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