Re: [DNSOP] my dnse vision

Evan Hunt <each@isc.org> Thu, 06 March 2014 17:31 UTC

Return-Path: <each@isc.org>
X-Original-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F10C1A0217 for <dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 6 Mar 2014 09:31:50 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.548
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.548 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GGUF4rXrAGPo for <dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 6 Mar 2014 09:31:48 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mx.pao1.isc.org (mx.pao1.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:0:2::2b]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3F11A02DB for <dnsop@ietf.org>; Thu, 6 Mar 2014 09:31:46 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mx.pao1.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.pao1.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D97FC9427; Thu, 6 Mar 2014 17:31:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from each@isc.org)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=isc.org; s=dkim2012; t=1394127103; bh=k8dsxBKJ9E7HpMqiQnWXQvqqaWaGGYa/jR9sZjYjNoE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=OUl98Cr7l5fykuyB+D2SRfrzIbYNSvId4MxchtWyE6G8sSPnFLFujfHRe7Rk/5C4q zwUkV/m/YawThRa5Phcq3cc/510VTR0be5+KbqhMaGSUylIKTJMdTTGa9fWD0ojRVD p1xYEtszt4SjV1dIWF2sYcV9ZwrZAzBio8nkOpOs=
Received: from bikeshed.isc.org (bikeshed.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:d::19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.isc.org", Issuer "RapidSSL CA" (not verified)) by mx.pao1.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Thu, 6 Mar 2014 17:31:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from each@isc.org)
Received: by bikeshed.isc.org (Postfix, from userid 10292) id 8C581216C31; Thu, 6 Mar 2014 17:31:32 +0000 (UTC)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 17:31:32 +0000
From: Evan Hunt <each@isc.org>
To: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
Message-ID: <20140306173132.GD22321@isc.org>
References: <201403051107.s25B7ext069332@givry.fdupont.fr> <02410136-DFE2-42C8-A91E-AA84641AFFCF@ogud.com> <20140305144213.GA19170@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> <alpine.LSU.2.00.1403051637160.18502@hermes-1.csi.cam.ac.uk> <20140306145020.GA5976@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <20140306145020.GA5976@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i
X-DCC--Metrics: post.isc.org; whitelist
Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/IDq8d5Qym8hhwLC_d7f2hUL3Nrk
Cc: Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at>, dnsop@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [DNSOP] my dnse vision
X-BeenThere: dnsop@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF DNSOP WG mailing list <dnsop.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dnsop/>
List-Post: <mailto:dnsop@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2014 17:31:50 -0000

On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 02:50:20PM +0000, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> The only place where server authentication could be useful is between
> a stub and the first resolver.

I think that's exactly the point that was under discussion, though:
How can people who don't want their DNS traffic snooped and analyzed,
but have decided for some reason to use 8.8.8.8 anyway, be sure they're
talking to the "real" 8.8.8.8? :)

-- 
Evan Hunt -- each@isc.org
Internet Systems Consortium, Inc.