Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Call for Adoption - draft-west-let-localhost-be-localhost

Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca> Tue, 12 September 2017 19:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Call for Adoption - draft-west-let-localhost-be-localhost
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On 12 Sep 2017, at 13:11, John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:

>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thomson-postel-was-wrong-00#section-4.1
>> 
>> When something shouldn't work, it shouldn't work.
> 
> I agree but this is a tangent.  The draft is about localhost. or maybe <something>.localhost.  It's not about localhost.<something>.

The problem with this clarification is that in practice "localhost." is almost always spelt "localhost".


Joe