[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] New draft on collision free key tags in DNSSEC
John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Fri, 26 July 2024 21:55 UTC
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Subject: [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] New draft on collision free key tags in DNSSEC
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It appears that Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org> said: >The problems are listed as: > >Colliding key tags impose additional work on a validating resolver, which then has to check >signatures for each of the candidate set of keys identified by the Key Tag. Furthermore, they >open up resolvers to computational denial of service attacks by adversaries deploying specially >crafted zones with many intentionally colliding key tags [KEYTRAP]. I don't see why this is a problem that needs to be solved. I did a survey of the names in all the large gTLD zones and I never found more than a single collision per delegated zone. Resolvers can stop after, say, three collisions with a negligible chance of losing real DNS data. (Zones built with deliberate collisions don't count.) This is just one more implementation limit that started with the CNAME limit suggested in 1035. I suppose we can suggest that people adjust their key generation systems to check the old and new keys, and regnerate the new key if there's a collision, but that is a minor and not very important tweak. R's, John
- [DNSOP] New draft on collision free key tags in D… Shumon Huque
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] New draft on collision free key… Paul Hoffman
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] New draft on collision free key… Yorgos Thessalonikefs
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] New draft on collision free key… Shumon Huque
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] New draft on collision free key… Yorgos Thessalonikefs
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] New draft on collision free key… Paul Wouters
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] New draft on collision free key… Paul Wouters
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] New draft on collision free key… Yorgos Thessalonikefs
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] New draft on collision free key… Shumon Huque
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] New draft on collision free key… John Levine
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] New draft on collision free key… John R Levine
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] New draft on collision free key… John Levine
- [DNSOP] Re: New draft on collision free key tags … Edward Lewis
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] New draft on collision free key… Edward Lewis
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] New draft on collision free key… Mark Andrews
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] New draft on collision free key… Mark Andrews
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] New draft on collision free key… John R. Levine
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] New draft on collision free key… Olafur Gudmundsson
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] New draft on collision free key… Paul Wouters
- [DNSOP] Re: New draft on collision free key tags … Vladimír Čunát
- [DNSOP] Re: New draft on collision free key tags … libor.peltan
- [DNSOP] Re: New draft on collision free key tags … Petr Špaček
- [DNSOP] Re: New draft on collision free key tags … Vladimír Čunát
- [DNSOP] Re: New draft on collision free key tags … Vladimír Čunát
- [DNSOP] Re: New draft on collision free key tags … Petr Špaček
- [DNSOP] Re: New draft on collision free key tags … Paul Wouters
- [DNSOP] Re: New draft on collision free key tags … libor.peltan
- [DNSOP] Re: New draft on collision free key tags … Peter Thomassen