Re: [DNSOP] are there recent studies of client side/ISP firewalls interfering with EDNS?

Nicholas Weaver <nweaver@icsi.berkeley.edu> Thu, 12 November 2015 16:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] are there recent studies of client side/ISP firewalls interfering with EDNS?
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> On Nov 12, 2015, at 8:43 AM, John Kristoff <jtk@cymru.com> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 08:00:50 -0800
> Nicholas Weaver <nweaver@icsi.berkeley.edu> wrote:
> 
> After a DNS over TCP discussion a student of mine indicated that they
> recently fixed a problem in their network where DNS messages over 512
> bytes were not being relayed.  It appears the root cause has to do with
> some defaults being set common gear that simply drops messages over 512
> bytes.  For example:

This is an issue but its relatively rare.  Often the bigger problem is fragmentation support.

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