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Re: [DNSOP] [dns-privacy] New: draft-bertola-bcp-doh-clients

Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Wed, 13 March 2019 01:04 UTC

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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 12:04:21 +1100
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [dns-privacy] New: draft-bertola-bcp-doh-clients
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> On 13 Mar 2019, at 3:02 am, Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> wrote:
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> 
>> On 12 Mar 2019, at 15:49, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> wrote:
>> 
>> the case of a commercial
>> Internet access provider is clear in the other direction: a client is
>> not an employee, and is entitled to a free, open and neutral Internet
>> access.
> 
> Stephane, that’s simply not true. A client of an Internet access provider is entitled to the service that they contractually agreed to pay for. Check the small print. Or the T&Cs the next time you use some coffeeshop’s wifi. Even if your ISP offers you “free, open and neutral Internet access” (for some definition of that phrase), I’m pretty sure they’ll drop your service if you were damaging their network or or doing something else that was illegal or otherwise in breach of their T&Cs.

And what part of doing a DNS lookups breaks any reasonable terms and conditions?

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