Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-large-resp
Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> Mon, 21 January 2019 12:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-large-resp
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Peter van Dijk wrote on 2019-01-21 11:22: > Hello, > > On 18 Jan 2019, at 18:55, Benno Overeinder wrote: > >> ... >> This starts a Call for Adoption for: draft-song-atr-large-resp > > I oppose adoption. ... likewise. we should not avoid fragmentation in this particular way. that is, we can use persistent TCP, or we can avoid sending large messages by shaping their contents better (smaller signatures, less additional data). in fact i would prefer to embrace fragmentation and fix it. so, in addition to my reasoning above, i am also biased against the goal itself. (i say this not to persuade, but for full disclosure.) in ~1998, the IETF DNSIND WG persuaded me to remove the MD bit from EDNS0, and the reasons given then (see the archives) are all still valid today, especially given that IPv6 made fragmentation worse not better than it was in V4, and it was pretty broken in V4, the absolute value of this negative bar was rather high. -- P Vixie
- [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-large-r… Benno Overeinder
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-lar… Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-lar… Ondřej Surý
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-lar… Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-lar… Ralf Weber
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-lar… Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-lar… John Dickinson
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-lar… Ralph Dolmans
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-lar… Paul Vixie
- [DNSOP] 答复: Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-lar… Davey Song (宋林健)
- Re: [DNSOP] 答复: Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr… Ralf Weber
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-lar… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-lar… 神明達哉
- Re: [DNSOP] 答复: Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr… Brian Dickson
- [DNSOP] 答复: 答复: Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr… Davey Song (宋林健)
- Re: [DNSOP] 答复: Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr… Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] 答复: 答复: Call for Adoption: draft-song… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-lar… Mukund Sivaraman
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-lar… Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-lar… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-lar… Mukund Sivaraman
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-lar… 神明達哉
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-lar… Benno Overeinder
- [DNSOP] 答复: Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-lar… Davey Song (宋林健)