Re: [DNSOP] definitions of "public DNS Service"

George Kuo who is not subscribed to the list said this:

>Thanks all for sharing.
>I have learned from all your input.
>
>George Kuo.

On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 2:11 PM George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> wrote:
>
> Thank you all for the responses. This has been very interesting. Paul
> actually hinted this was the probable direction, and I think we can
> say categorically the dictionary doesn't need updating because there
> isn't a sense this concept needs defining in this context within this
> WG.
>
> Many thanks
>
> -George (not Kuo. Btw, there are five georges at APNIC. hash
> collisions happen all the time)
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 2:02 PM Davey Song <songlinjian@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > IMHO, public DNS is not a technical jargon which needs a DNS terminology RFC to record (it collects all DNS definition and terms from other DNS RFC).
> >
> > The term "Public DNS"  or "Public DNS service" belongs to the scope of how people provide and operate DNS services to their best interests. There are many similar terms, such as Cloud DNS,  Dynamic DNS, DNS firewall,  and many DNS-attacking terms. BTW,  I'm happy to see there is a document to define all DNS attacks and mitigation suggestions.
> >
> > Best regards，
> > Davey
> >
> > On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 08:56, George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> My Colleague George Kuo asked me for definitions of public DNS
> >> service. not "public DNS" but the trigram "public DNS service"
> >>
> >> Colloquially we understand this reasonably well. It is in the space of
> >> what Google, quad9, CloudFlare and others do. The various clean DNS
> >> feeds people subscribe to, it is the functional role of a recursive,
> >> but to the public, yet somehow not the bad one of an open DNS resolver
> >> being abused to do DDoS: its the conscious service offering of a
> >> recursive/cache/forwarder in the public view, a declared intent.
> >>
> >> A Google search lists (some of) them by name and IP.
> >>
> >> I asked "Dr Johnson" (Paul Hoffman) why it was not in his dictionary,
> >> and he said he is but the humble scribe, and words appear in the
> >> dictionary when he is directed.
> >>
> >> What does the WG feel? The definitions of the "elements" of a public
> >> DNS service are of course defined. But not (I feel) the "collected
> >> whole" which most definitely exists, out there.
> >>
> >> (if anyone feels this is adequately defined, please correct me and share a URL)
> >>
> >> -George
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> DNSOP mailing list
> >> DNSOP@ietf.org
> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop