Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-serve-stale-00.txt

Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> Wed, 15 November 2017 04:07 UTC

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Ray Bellis wrote:
> ...
>
> I'm not particularly arguing either way on this question of signalling,
> but do we have any feel for how many stubs ever send EDNS?
>
> libresolv can do it, and getdns does, but I don't think glibc's resolver
> routinely sends EDNS.

i would look to opendns or gdns for those stats. they've got to be 
seeing an excellent cross-section of every possible stub implementation.

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P Vixie