Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost"?
"Paul Hoffman" <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Sat, 12 August 2017 19:03 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost"?
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On 12 Aug 2017, at 11:44, Richard Barnes wrote: > On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> > wrote: > >> On 12 Aug 2017, at 10:14, Ted Lemon wrote: >> >> El 12 ag 2017, a les 13:09, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> va >> escriure: >>> >>>> Right. That's why it's long past time that we make it clear that >>>> non-broken resolvers at any level will treat localhost as a special >>>> case. As you may have heard, we are not the Network Police, but we >>>> do >>>> publish the occasional document telling people what to do if they >>>> want >>>> to interoperate with the rest of the Internet. >>>> >>> >>> With respect, John, the issue I raised here isn't interop. It's >>> security. >>> >> >> It's security through interop. It's causing systems that want to hope >> that >> "localhost" has a particular meaning that has security implications >> to have >> a better chance that their hope is fulfilled. > > > And giving systems that want to ensure that they never mistake > "localhost" > for something other than loopback to have a better chance that they > won't > break things. Sorry, yes: that too. It applies to hopefulness on both sides. --Paul Hoffman
- [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost"? Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… william manning
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Robert Edmonds
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Matthew Pounsett
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… John Levine
- [DNSOP] Fwd: Status of "let localhost be localhos… william manning
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Erik Nygren
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Robert Edmonds
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… John R Levine