Re: [DNSOP] New draft on delegation revalidation

Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca> Thu, 23 April 2020 01:53 UTC

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On 22 Apr 2020, at 18:30, Shumon Huque <shuque@gmail.com> wrote:

> Nice!
> 
> You didn't name the entity/company, so I won't ask. But I am mildly
> curious about why they never brought the proposal to the regext 
> working group.

Others will surely have greater insight, but there is much work on the registry-registrar interface that happens outside the IETF. I am aware that the regext wg chairs have put considerable effort into trying to encourage more such work to happen there, but there is some degree of cultural round peg square/hole going on.

As a minor adjunct to Patrick's earlier advice on EPP, note that not all registries use separate host and domain objects. In some registries the data you might otherwise find in a host object is present in domain objects themselves, rather than domain objects and host objects being linked. I think this behaviour is exclusively found in non-contracted registries.

RFC 5731:

   <complexType name="nsType">
    <choice>
      <element name="hostObj" type="eppcom:labelType"
       maxOccurs="unbounded"/>
      <element name="hostAttr" type="domain:hostAttrType"
       maxOccurs="unbounded"/>
    </choice>
   </complexType>
   <!--
   Name servers are either host objects or attributes.
   -->

   <complexType name="hostAttrType">
    <sequence>
      <element name="hostName" type="eppcom:labelType"/>
      <element name="hostAddr" type="host:addrType"
       minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded"/>
    </sequence>
   </complexType>
   <!--
   If attributes, addresses are optional and follow the
   structure defined in the host mapping.
   -->


Joe