Re: [DNSOP] [[e-mail]: I-D Action: draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names-00.txt]

[Olafur Gudmundsson <[e-mail]>]

On Dec 1, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer <[e-mail]> wrote:

> This draft have originally been copied to the perpass mailing list
> (not a working group). As far as I know,
> draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names is the first attempt to
> actually use RFC 6761 and exercice its procedures. It sees RFC 6761
> (section 4) is not crystal-clear about the discussion to have before a
> registration. RFC 5226, section 4.1 says "Before approving a request,
> the community should be consulted, via a "call for comments" that
> provides as much information as is reasonably possible about the
> request." so I think a good idea to have dnsop read and discuss about
> it.
> 
> For the record, I've reviewed
> draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names-00, I find it well-written
> and clear and I fully support it. Registering these names would be a
> very good idea.
> 

I reviewed this document 

I have a big conceptual problem with it, 
Why do people think that different namespaces should be identified by a postfix? 

In DNS wire protocol we have classes, to me that seems like much better way of handling this. 
I even will question why are the not using  something more expressive like 
	GNU#&#<domain_name> 

#@# is in this case a random string to separate namespaces 

I'm not sure the same resolution library should be used for different namespaces that are distributed hash tables. 

TLD live on the boundary of IETF and ICANN, we do not want to push that boundary but allowing RFC to allocate what ICANN charges big bucks for.

	Olafur

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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> 
> 
> 	Title           : Intended status: (IESG Approval) Expires: May 17th, 2014
> 	Author(s)       : Christian Grothoff
>                          Matthias Wachs
>                          Hellekin O. Wolf
>                          Jacob Appelbaum
> 	Filename        : draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names-00.txt
> 	Pages           : 9
> 	Date            : 2013-11-14
> 
> Abstract:
>   Today, the Domain Name System (DNS) is a key service for the
>   Internet.  DNS is primarily used to map human-memorable names to IP
>   addresses, which are used for routing but generally not meaningful
>   for humans.  However, the hierarchical nature of DNS makes it
>   unsuitable for various Peer-to-Peer (P2P) Name Systems.  As
>   compatibility with applications using DNS names is desired, these
>   overlay networks often define alternative pseudo Top-Level Domains
>   (pTLDs) to integrate names from the P2P domain into the DNS
>   hierarchy.
> 
>   This memo describes common Special-Use Domain Names [RFC6761]
>   pseudo Top-Level DNS Names designed to help harden name resolution
>   security (e.g., [RFC6840][RFC6975]), provide censorship resistance,
>   and protect the users' privacy on the Internet.
> 
>   In this IESG Approval document we are asking for domain name
>   reservations for five Special-Use Domain Names [RFC6761] TLDs:
>   ".gnu", ".zkey", ".onion", ".exit", and ".i2p".
> 
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names
> 
> There's also a htmlized version available at:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names-00
> 
> 
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