Re: [DNSOP] Comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-05
Federico Santandrea <federico@xylant.net> Mon, 10 October 2016 05:59 UTC
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From: Federico Santandrea <federico@xylant.net>
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 07:59:15 +0200
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-05
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Il 9 ottobre 2016 19:36:34 CEST, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> ha scritto: >There is absolutely no standardization or commonality in the protocol >switches that people use for non-DNS names. For .local it's in >library routines like gethostbyname() that map names to IP addresses, >for .onion it's in a SOCKS proxy that opens a connection to a remote >host and for those of us old enough to remember .uucp and .bitnet, it >was in a switch table in the mail configuration that determined what >program to call to do the next hop. It's not much use providing an IP >address lookup handler for something that doesn't use IP addresses. Right. In the light of that the only useful feature would be the first part of 1 - which is already in the draft. I should have known better. >I hate to bring this up, but we might want to reconsider whether .alt >is still the best name for this hack. For us old nerds, .alt reminds >us of usenet and uucp of yore, but in American politics it's some >unpleasant fringe groups with which I would not want to be associated >even a little bit. Keeping in mind that we want to encourage people >to use .alt, I'd rather find something with no political (or other) >connotations. This I tend to agree with, didn't bring up the issue in my message because it wouldn't add to my point and would make for less clarity. -- Federico
- [DNSOP] Comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-05 Federico Santandrea
- Re: [DNSOP] Comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Federico Santandrea
- Re: [DNSOP] Comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-… John R Levine