Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not only home residental networks ...

Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at> Mon, 04 September 2017 23:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not only home residental networks ...
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> On 4 Sep 2017, at 23:42, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc747455(v=ws.10).aspx
> 
> The Microsoft page above advocated
> the use literal use of .local which is very different.

Worse than that! It was the default suggested by the software!

I think this dated from the late 1990s when registering domain names was quite expensive and inconvenient, so I can see why they did it. A better alternative would have been to make the default parent domain something registered by MS, instead of a fake TLD.

Tony.
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