Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis

Dick Franks <rwfranks@acm.org> Thu, 05 July 2018 09:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis
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On 3 July 2018 at 16:40, Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca> wrote:

> On 3 Jul 2018, at 09:11, Matthew Pounsett <matt@conundrum.com> wrote:
>
> > This is not a complete review of the latest revision.. I'm hoping to get
> to that in a day or two.   But I've got a question about whether something
> should be added to the document..
> >
> > A question came up in conversation recently about the use of the verb
> "to publish" in reference to managing DNS data.  It quickly became clear
> that there may be a common overloading of terms, where the same word means
> different things to different people.  I wasn't sure this fell into the
> scope of the terminology document, but I just checked and it does use
> "publish" in reference to DNS data, so perhaps we should come up with a
> definition for that.
> >
> > To me, publishing DNS data has always meant the generation of the zone
> and the data it contains, as distinct from distributing the zone (to name
> servers, possibly though zone transfer) and serving the zone (making it
> available to be queried on a name server).  To the person I was speaking
> to, "publishing" meant putting that data on Internet-facing name servers
> that would answer queries about it.
>
> To me, DNS data is published when it is made available to actors who wish
> to consume it. That means serving the data (i.e. having servers with the
> data available to answer queries). I have never heard "publish" used to
> mean zone generation. A zone, once generated, is not published until it is
> available for access by others.
>

agree, the word carries the usual dictionary meaning:

 publish  v.t. to make public; to divulge; to announce; to proclaim; to set
forth to the public;
   to put forth and offer for sale orig. any article, now books,
newspapers, etc.;
   to put into circulation.

zone generation without the "setting forth" does not appear to qualify.


Dick