[DNSOP] Re: libc 3 resolver limitation and draft-ietf-dnsop-3901bis (was Gorry Fairhurst's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-3901bis-15: (with COMMENT))

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Thread-Topic: [DNSOP] Re: libc 3 resolver limitation and draft-ietf-dnsop-3901bis (was Gorry Fairhurst's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-3901bis-15: (with COMMENT))
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Hi Tobias/Erik,

Seems that you both converged that editing an I-D is more appropriate here. 

@Tobias, can you please review the changes proposed by Erik in the other thread: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/9uyXVO_mWhOB76TdRyRq8LlQsNA/? Thanks.

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Tobias Fiebig <tobias=40fiebig.nl@dmarc.ietf.org>
> Envoyé : dimanche 17 mai 2026 11:29
> À : Erik Nygren <erik+ietf@nygren.org>
> Cc : dnsop WG <dnsop@ietf.org>; v6ops@ietf.org list
> <v6ops@ietf.org>; Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk>; draft-
> ietf-dnsop-3901bis@ietf.org; Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org>
> Objet : [DNSOP] Re: libc 3 resolver limitation and draft-ietf-
> dnsop-3901bis (was Gorry Fairhurst's No Objection on draft-ietf-
> dnsop-3901bis-15: (with COMMENT))
> 
> 
> Moin,
> > 1) The one mentioned in the draft where only a subset of
> resolvers
> > have the ability to resolve for each address family.  This is
> > certainly a problem of its own -- I wonder how well various stub
> > resolvers deal with this? Having different partial connectivity
> from
> > different stub resolvers but configured as the same may confuse
> some
> > of the stub resolvers and will cause performance issues.  I'm
> > unconvinced that having a subset of them dual-stacked is good
> enough
> > to avoid problems, as many stubs aren't good with handling cases
> where
> > their recursive resolvers have partial functionality.
> 
> This should be something that can be relatively exhaustively
> measured with a bunch of implementations. Sounds like an ideal
> student project to me. I will try to keep that in mind when an
> opportunity comes by.
> 
> > 2) The one I'm raising where it is important to make sure the
> client
> > receives at least one recursive resolver its stub resolver or
> stub
> > library can reach is separate/distinct.   This isn't covered in
> the
> > current draft, but I agree that it is messy enough that it is
> likely
> > hard to cover with just a small update here.  (I'm actually not
> sure
> > there is a heuristic that always works.)
> 
> I think this should start out with an informational draft
> outlining the problem; This will likely get some of the messy-ness
> out, and might lead to a good recommendation. Let me mark this
> thread as 'unread', so i remember to setup a skeleton structure
> for an I-D.
> 
> With best regards,
> Tobias
> 
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