Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme-split-dns?
"John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Mon, 26 November 2018 19:03 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme-split-dns?
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In article <B4F27495-AA1E-44B3-B0DE-C228E0EDC84C@icann.org> you write: >> Can you unpack what you mean by this? I assume you don't mean that we should provide a mechanism whereby >network operators can automatically override DNSSEC trust anchors! > >For names that are only available within a trusted network, yes I really mean that. I agree with the sentiment, but when I'm writing my DNS validator, how do I tell the names that are only available within the network from the outside ones that the network operator is spoofing? R's, John
- [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme-spl… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-i… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-i… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-i… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-i… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-i… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-i… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-i… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-i… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-i… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-i… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-i… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-i… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Scott Morizot
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-i… Paul Wouters