Re: [DNSOP] A new version of mixfr

Matthijs Mekking <matthijs@pletterpet.nl> Wed, 28 March 2018 15:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] A new version of mixfr
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Tony,

On 03/28/2018 04:08 PM, Tony Finch wrote:
> Matthijs Mekking <matthijs@pletterpet.nl> wrote:
>>
>> It's been a while, but I have put up a new version of the MIXFR draft:
>>
>>      https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mekking-mixfr-02
> 
> I've had a quick skim and it looks nice.

Thanks.


> Suggestions for 2nd paragraph of intro:
> 
>     To keep the deltas small in zone transfers, we need to have a richer
>     change syntax. This specification re-uses syntax from DNS UPDATE,
>     [RFC2136].  It introduces a new query type MIXFR (minimal
>     incremental zone transfer) that allows a client to request this richer
>     syntax.  The goal of this proposal is to allow small changes to be
>     communicated over UDP, and remove as much redundant information from
>     the zone transfer as possible.

I am happy take this. Thanks for contributing text!


> I still prefer the name "UXFR (update-style IXFR)" :-)

I guess we can start a vote ;)


> Is UDP support supposed to be required? (I believe BIND requires TCP for
> IXFR even if the delta could fit in UDP.)

According to RFC 1995: Transport of a query may be by either UDP or TCP.

Best regards,
   Matthijs

> 
> Tony.
>