Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered
Benno Overeinder <benno@NLnetLabs.nl> Fri, 05 November 2021 16:10 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered
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Wes, On 05/11/2021 09:40, Vladimír Čunát wrote: > On 04/11/2021 23.44, Wes Hardaker wrote: >> The most important sticking point is there are 4 implementations (thank >> you for the links Matthijs) that have implemented 150. Since DNSOP >> strives for implementations of specs, I think this is the number we >> should publish*unless the vendors speak up and say they'll drive lower*. > > I'm convinced that 150 was just a quick stop-gap compromise and that > from the start vendors expected that dnsop might set it lower later. > Therefore I don't think this *argument* for keeping 150 is really valid. > > As for Knot Resolver, I see no problem in setting the hard limit lower, > especially if that gets published in this RFC. From Viktor I gather > that 100 shouldn't cause issues even at this moment, especially if it's > only a limit for downgrading to insecure (which won't be even noticed by > most DNS consumers). So personally I expected the draft to lower the > bound to <=100, though as I said... for us the *overall* performance > ratio from e.g. 150 -> 50 isn't that large. For Unbound, we have no problem setting the iteration cap to a value lower than the current 150. If Viktor's analysis shows a limit of 100 is feasible without (m)any problems for operators, and this value will be adopted in the soon-to-be-released RFC, we will use the new limit value. Cheers, -- Benno -- Benno J. Overeinder NLnet Labs https://www.nlnetlabs.nl/
- [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Miek Gieben
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Vladimír Čunát
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Benno Overeinder
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Miek Gieben
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Matthijs Mekking
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] nsec3-parameters opinions gathe… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered A. Schulze
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] nsec3-parameters opinions gathe… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Michael Bauland
- Re: [DNSOP] nsec3-parameters opinions gathered Viktor Dukhovni