Re: [DNSOP] additional special names Fwd: I-D Action: draft-chapin-additional-reserved-tlds-00.txt

Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Wed, 26 February 2014 04:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] additional special names Fwd: I-D Action: draft-chapin-additional-reserved-tlds-00.txt
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In message <1E762167-609B-4463-B6F4-357512C71FBE@apple.com>;, Stuart Cheshire wr
ites:
> On 24 Feb, 2014, at 19:37, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>; wrote:
> 
> > There is a slight difference.  There is no restriction on getting
> > names other than unwillingness or lack of education about how to
> > get a name.
> 
> Good point. A document to help this education aspect would be good.
> 
> > They can alway use <name>.10.in-addr.arpa.
> 
> I think human-interface factors make such names a non-starter. The people doi
> ng this want memorable easy-to-type names.

<name>.10.in-addr.arpa. was a bit tongue in cheek, but <name>.home.arpa
I think could be a viable alternative for those that refuse to get
their own domain.  It would require a education process but I think
it would be possible.

> Stuart Cheshire
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