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Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-toorop-dnsop-dns-catalog-zones

George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> Tue, 12 May 2020 14:32 UTC

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From: George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org>
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 00:31:54 +1000
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-toorop-dnsop-dns-catalog-zones
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yes. well finessed! keep the SHOULD relax the non-normative language is fine.

and I understand not wanting to work on this regarding TTL and meaning
against RR.

as I said, support adoption. this is good work. its implemented.

-G

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 11:07 PM Willem Toorop <willem@nlnetlabs.nl> wrote:
>
> Op 12-05-2020 om 00:48 schreef George Michaelson:
> > I support adoption.
> >
> > I wondered a little about "it is absolutely essential for these
> > transfers to be protected from unexpected modifications on the route.
> > So, catalog zone transfers SHOULD be authenticated using TSIG
> > [RFC2845]."
> >
> > The use of a categorical *absolutely* and SHOULD is jarring. If this
> > is really categorical, the normative enforcement needs to be stronger
> > maybe?
>
> Agree, how about replacing "it is absolutely essential" with "it is key"?
>
> > I also wondered why the TTL of the RR is not held to be meaningful. It
> > felt like there is an opportunity to use this field but thats quibble,
> > the document as-is defines it as 0 and thats ok, if perhaps missing an
> > opportunity to use a field close to the zone being catalogued for some
> > purpose.
>
> We're staying away from actual configuration properties in this draft on
> purpose.  TTL could be used to mean something in the dynamics of adding
> & removing of zones itself, but it feels a bit fragile to do that to be
> honest - we might exclude (or make more difficult) certain setups where
> the catalog could not be used by or from the authoritative nameserver
> directly.
>
> -- Willem
> >
> > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 3:42 AM Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> As we stated in the meeting and in our chairs actions, we're going to run
> >> regular call for adoptions over next few months.
> >> We are looking for *explicit* support for adoption.
> >>
> >>
> >> This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-toorop-dnsop-dns-catalog-zones
> >>
> >> The draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-toorop-dnsop-dns-catalog-zones/
> >>
> >> Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoption
> >> by DNSOP, and comments to the list, clearly stating your view.
> >>
> >> Please also indicate if you are willing to contribute text, review, etc.
> >>
> >> This call for adoption ends: 25 May 2020
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> tim wicinski
> >> DNSOP co-chair
> >>
> >>
> >>
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