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Re: [DNSOP] [homenet] My assessment of .homenet as described during the WG session yesterday.

Terry Manderson <terry.manderson@icann.org> Wed, 29 March 2017 15:37 UTC

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From: Terry Manderson <terry.manderson@icann.org>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [homenet] My assessment of .homenet as described during the WG session yesterday.
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Hi James,

Q1. Both. The root zone, as a registry, is not an IETF registry.

Q2. My guess, and I am really guessing here, that if a process were to be created by the ICANN community to accept such requests from the IETF, it would be encompassing of both.

Cheers
Terry 


On 30/03/2017, 12:48 AM, "homenet on behalf of james woodyatt" <homenet-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of jhw@google.com> wrote:


    
    q1. What precisely about “3” is not covered in IETF policy terms? That the document directs IANA to request a delegation in the root zone? Or that the document directs IANA to request an *insecure* delegation in the root zone, whereas a secure delegation
     *would* be adequately covered? Or both of these?
    
    
    q2. If the answer to q1 is that both aspects of “3” are not covered in IETF policy terms, and that each one will require a set of collaborative discussions with the ICANN community and new processes that handle each of these situations, are there any expectations
     about which of the two processes, if there are two and not just one, can be defined in a workable period of time for HOMENET?
    
    
    
    --james woodyatt <jhw@google.com>

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