Re: [DNSOP] updated to draft-wing-dnsop-structured-dns-error-page-01

tirumal reddy <kondtir@gmail.com> Tue, 16 November 2021 06:25 UTC

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From: tirumal reddy <kondtir@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 11:54:48 +0530
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] updated to draft-wing-dnsop-structured-dns-error-page-01
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 at 20:55, Ben Schwartz <bemasc=
40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 11:18 AM Petr Špaček <pspacek@isc.org> wrote:
> ...
>
>> 2. If the new option was present in query, then DNS responder sends back
>> Extended DNS Errors option (EDE, RFC 8914) with INFO-TEXT field
>> formatted according to structured JSON specified in this draft.
>>
>
> I like this idea a lot.  In fact, I don't even think we need a new
> option.  It's not as if INFO-TEXT is already widely used.  We can just
> declare something like "if the INFO-TEXT is JSON, here's what it means".
>
> This also allows us to remove the "access denied" emphasis, and broaden
> our focus to explaining all kinds of resolution failures.
>

Sounds good to me, it requires an update to RFC8914 to add JSON in
EXTRA-TEXT.


>
> I also agree that requiring an HTTP URL seems out of place here.
>

The HTTP URL is for the end-user to report mis-classified DNS filtering of
a domain.


> I would prefer an "ID" string of unspecified contents, so that operators
> can use UUIDs, domain names holding TXT records, URIs, or whatever
> mechanism they want to identify failure types.
>

Yes, ID string is useful and the content can be opaque to the client. UUID
or URIs are useful for the DNS operator to identify the reason for failure.
I don't get the use of TXT records.

-Tiru

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