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Re: [DNSOP] Terminology question: split DNS

Artyom Gavrichenkov <ximaera@gmail.com> Wed, 21 March 2018 18:44 UTC

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From: Artyom Gavrichenkov <ximaera@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 18:44:05 +0000
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Terminology question: split DNS
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On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 9:24 PM, Michael Sinatra <michael@brokendns.net> wrote:
> Rather than try for some physical demarcation like "firewall" or "network,"
> why don't we simply say "organizationally-defined perimeter" or "perimeter
> defined by the organization," which leaves it vague enough to support the
> "many potential variants"?
>
> Use: "Where a corporate [enterprise?] network serves partly or completely
> different DNS based on a client's location inside or outside of a perimeter
> defined by that organization."
>
> This also gives the enterprise organization both the authority (and onus) to
> define its perimeter in a reasonable logical way.

+1
A good idea actually.

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