Re: [DNSOP] Second Working Group Last Call: draft-ietf-dnsop-refuse-any

Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at> Mon, 20 March 2017 14:43 UTC

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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 14:43:47 +0000
From: Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at>
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Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> wrote:
>
> > "ANY Query" refers to a DNS meta-query
>
> meta-query is not defined in this document, in RFC 1034, 1035 or
> 7719. Opinion: just "query".

There's precedent for "metatype" - cf. RFC 2136 section 3.4.1.2 - "check
the TYPE and if it is ANY, AXFR, MAILA, MAILB, or any other QUERY metatype"
also the IANA registry describes RRtypes 128-255 as "Q TYPEs, Meta TYPEs".

> > Implementers SHOULD provide an option for operators to specify
> > behavior over TCP.
>
> If this is because, with TCP, you have some certainty about the client
> address, and therefore do not risk reflection attacks, then I suggest
> to replace TCP by "transports that provide some guarantee about the
> authenticity of the source IP address, such as TCP or DNS cookies".

The reason I deployed minimal-any was to avoid oversized UDP responses, to
avoid fragmentation and truncation - not because of spoofing (RRL deals
with spoofing). Cookies don't do anything to help avoid oversized
responses, so I would still want to send a minimal-any response to a
cookie client.

Tony.
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