Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme-split-dns?

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org> Mon, 26 November 2018 18:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Favor: Weigh in on draft-ietf-ipsecme-split-dns?
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On Nov 26, 2018, at 10:36 AM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>; wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 1:29 PM Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org>; wrote:
> Once you are inside a network (the N in VPN), it's "my network, my policy" all over again.
> 
> Can you unpack what you mean by this?   I assume you don't mean that we should provide a mechanism whereby network operators can automatically override DNSSEC trust anchors! 

For names that are only available within a trusted network, yes I really mean that. 

--Paul Hoffman