Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names and draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7816bis
Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org> Wed, 07 July 2021 18:01 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names and draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7816bis
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On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 01:54:37PM -0400, Warren Kumari wrote: > Viktor is suggesting that QNAME Minimization should be stopped when > you run into an underscore ("_") label, instead of this being worded > as a potential, optional mechanism. > > Obviously there is a tradeoff here -- privacy vs deployment. > 1: while it's **possible** that there is a delegation point at the > underscore label, (IMO) it is unlikely. If there is no delegation, you > will simply be coming back to the same server again and again, and so > you are not leaking privacy sensitive information. > > 2: some recursives are less likely to enable QNAME minimization > because of the non-zero ENT and slight performance issues. > > What does the WG think? Does the privacy win of getting this deployed > and enabled sooner outweigh the potential small leak if there *is* a > delegation inside the _ territory of the name? > > Should the advice above be strengthened to SHOULD / RECOMMENDED? Thanks, Indeed I'm arguing for RECOMMENDED (synonymous with SHOULD IIRC, but sounds less intrasigent). -- Viktor.
- [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names and d… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Peter Thomassen
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Consensus check on underscore n… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Consensus check on underscore n… Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Consensus check on underscore n… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Consensus check on underscore n… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Consensus check on underscore n… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Consensus check on underscore n… Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names a… Warren Kumari