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Re: [DNSOP] fragile dnssec, was Fwd: New Version

Petr Špaček <petr.spacek@nic.cz> Tue, 22 August 2017 14:17 UTC

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On 20.8.2017 03:48, John Levine wrote:
> In article <272dc071-c650-220c-3528-acb9467c706b@nic.cz> you write:
>> Yes, someone might try to attack a domain using this. To lower
>> probability of this kind of attack CZ.NIC is nagging the technical
>> contact for one week before the DS gets installed into the CZ zone.
>>
>> For further details please see
>> https://en.blog.nic.cz/2017/06/21/lets-make-dns-great-again/
>>
>> We will see how it goes.
> 
> That's certainly one of the approaches that Olafur suggested, and it
> would definitely be easy to implement.
> 
> Please let us know what you learn.

Few people asked me privately about more details so I'm going to post
our IEPG presentation here as well:

http://iepg.org/2017-07-16-ietf99/Fully%20automatic%20DNSSEC%20-%20final.pdf

Feel free to play with it, we very much welcome feedback!
Please direct further questions to Jaromír Talíř <jaromir.talir@nic.cz>.

Have fun!

-- 
Petr Špaček  @  CZ.NIC

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