Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dnsop-resolver-priming

神明達哉 <jinmei@wide.ad.jp> Tue, 16 August 2016 01:44 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dnsop-resolver-priming
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At Sat, 13 Aug 2016 14:01:52 +0300,
Andreas Gustafsson <gson@araneus.fi> wrote:

> There is nothing wrong with existing resolvers that use the same
> timeout and retransmission strategies for priming queries as for any
> other query, and it seems wrong to me that a specific retransmission
> timeout should be required for some queries but not others.

+1.  This is actually I thought in my own read of the draft.
Mentioning a specific timeout value seems a clear overkilling (with no
apparent reason) to me, and while I wouldn't be necessarily opposed to
mentioning the retry at all, it's still awkward to me.  So I'd be
happier if it's simply removed.

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JINMEI, Tatuya