Re: [DNSOP] DNS terminology: "In-bailiwick response", "Out-of-bailiwick response"

Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> Thu, 19 March 2015 10:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] DNS terminology: "In-bailiwick response", "Out-of-bailiwick response"
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> Tony Finch <mailto:dot@dotat.at>
> Thursday, March 19, 2015 3:23 AM
>
> My understanding is that "bailiwick" was originally applied to the DNS by
> djb. By his definition, bailiwicks are about how delegations are set up;
> they are a property of the zone data not of any particular message.

i can't claim that i knew where the term came from, but, that's how i've
always used it.

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Paul Vixie