[DNSOP] Question regarding RFC 8499

Michael De Roover <ctrl@ghnou.su> Wed, 22 July 2020 21:19 UTC

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I've read through RFC 8499, and found some things I considered odd. 
Particularly page 14 and 19 which describe the "master files" and the 
"primary" and "secondary" servers.

In most of the DNS-related documentation I've read so far, the "master 
files" are often called zone files. I find it strange that in the RFC 
this is only acknowledged, rather than defined into its own term and 

Regarding the primary and secondary servers, it's a fair euphemism but 
this among further fracturing of nomenclature in other projects makes 
this definition very fragmented (master/slave is now primary/secondary, 
main, parent/child, etc). This is something I find unnecessary and 
harmful, as it creates confusion while merely redefining the same. It 
also unnecessarily obsoletes older documentation. Newcomers to the DNS 
could become confused. I was very confused when I recently built my own 
DNS server infrastructure.

The discussion regarding these tends to get emotional and political, but 
I feel like these should be kept outside of standards bodies. Just like 
we are still stuck with 29.97 Hz refresh rates on televisions from 
implementations half a century ago, these changes could also affect 
those half a century from now on.

Met vriendelijke groet / Best regards,
Michael De Roover