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Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03

Tim Chown <tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk> Tue, 21 March 2017 21:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03
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Hi,

> On 21 Mar 2017, at 18:36, Ralph Droms <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2017, at 2:34 PM, Tim Chown <tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 21 Mar 2017, at 17:30, Suzanne Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jim,
>>> 
>>> In the interests of preserving a distinction here that I believe is important: 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 21, 2017, at 10:01 AM, Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 21 Mar 2017, at 13:54, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Suggesting we postpone .homenet while figuring out a new IETF/ICANN
>>>>> process, something that can take years, would basically doom this rename
>>>>> and install .home as the defacto standard.
>>>> 
>>>> At the risk of pouring petrol on the fire, .home *is* the defacto standard. Queries for this TLD account for ~4% of the 2016 DITL root server traffic. That's more than every delegated TLD except .com and .net. And the traffic for .home has been increasing in both absolute and relative terms in recent years. 3-4 years ago, it was ~3% of the DITL data set.
>>> 
>>> “Lots of queries for .home” doesn’t imply that it’s a “defacto standard” for anything in particular.
>>> 
>>> Is there any evidence connecting the use of the string “.home” in queries to the DNS with any particular protocol, type of equipment, network configuration, or software? 
>> 
>> In the UK, I believe the largest residential ISP has used the .home suffix on millions of its CPEs for several years.
> 
> Do you happen to know how names with the .home suffix are resolved?

Not with BT, so can’t confirm myself.  I’ll ping someone at BT offlist and cc you.

(I’m with an ISP that supported IPv6 some time ago, but BT are now pretty much there…)

Tim

> 
> - Ralph
> 
>> 
>> How much of that leaks is another question.
>> 
>> Tim
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