Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS root zone for sinking of special-use TLDs" ?
Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Wed, 19 October 2016 19:10 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS root zone for sinking of special-use TLDs" ?
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In message <20161019140954.31332.qmail@ary.lan>, "John Levine" writes: > >You may not care that validating stub resolvers that ask for > >example.local get back answers that can be validated as NXDOMAIN > >without leaking queries to the root but I do. Just adding the zone > >locally without having the insecure delegation results in just that > >condition. > > It just occurred to me that we seem to disagree about what problem > we're solving here. > > If we see a DNS query for .local or .onion, an application is trying > to use mDNS or Tor on a machine that doesn't implement them. On > machines that do implement mDNS and Tor, neither does DNSSEC > signatures, so there is no reason to provide answers that the > application is not looking for. > > So a cache stub that provides unsigned answers to .local and .onion > queries is just fine. If the client treats that as SERVFAIL or > whatever it does with unverified answers, that's fine too. SERVFAIL is a temporary error. NXDOMAIN is a permanent error which is cachable. SERVFAIL is not "fine". > R's, > John -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
- [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS root zo… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Bob Harold
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] [as112-ops] Future of "Using DNAME in… Aleksi Suhonen
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Future of "Using DNAME in the DNS roo… John R Levine