Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-03.txt
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-03.txt
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Dave First, thanks for resurrecting this for us. I think splitting draft into two parts probably makes sense after that last round of comments. However, we need to go find those App Area folks (hence cc'ing Murray here) and run this past them. If the group likes this split, we can progress attrleaf first and give you time to work on the second document. Tim On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 12:35 AM, Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net> wrote: > Folks, > > I'll limit what should be an extensive and elaborate apology to just this: > I'm sorry for the year of inactivity. > > The -03 version should provide some useful substance of progress. > > I've gone over last summer's comments and the -03 version should reflect > what the wg agreed to. Basically, it has been significantly streamlined, > essentially to reflect a clean-sheet model of the world. That is, it > doesn't deal with the ugliness that SRV, et al, created. It merely > establishes the two registries we need, long term, and populates them. > This document should have continuing utility. > > -03 defines two registries, 'global' and 'second-level'. I'm suspicious > of how short the global one is, though it does make sense. > > As noted in the document, absent major concerns with the substance of the > document, please send me or the list s/old/new/ types of change > suggestions, and if the change is for a reference, I'd love the suggestion > to be <reference> xml... > > > A second document will attempt to fix up the uglinesses in some existing > documents, to get them to align with a world that has these registries. It > should be viewed as a transitional document, though we all know how glacial > 'transitions' are in the Internet... > > Deciding how to pursue that reasonably has been the effort. The changes > this 'fixes' document defines will be to documentation, but not to existing > operation. Existing uses in the field will be preserved. > > > Here's the approach I'm taking: > > > 1. Simple underscore usage > > For many/most specifications that use underscore naming, the text > merely says to use it. They are straightforward. > > These specifications need to be listed in this document, explicitly, so > that later updates to them will know to deal with the revisions called for > by this document. > > But this document doesn't really need s/old/new kinds of precise detail > for them. Rather than provide precise language for changing each of these, > I propose to provide some generic text, and generic IANA Considerations. > This will permit this Fixes document to be cited as Updating those RFCs. > > > 2. SRV and URI > > These need more detailed text, very much in the s/old/new style. > > The current text in them does a use-by-reference of existing tables > defined for other purposes. The Update text will, instead, specify a > requirement for adding entries in the Global or Common Second-Level > registries. > > > d/ > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > Name: draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf > Revision: 03 > Title: DNS Scoped Data Through '_Underscore' Naming of Attribute > Leaves > Document date: 2018-03-19 > Group: dnsop > Pages: 14 > URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-03.txt > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ > doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf/ > Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-03 > Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf > Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-03 > > -- > Dave Crocker > Brandenburg InternetWorking > bbiw.net > > -- > Dave Crocker > Brandenburg InternetWorking > bbiw.net > > _______________________________________________ > DNSOP mailing list > DNSOP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop >
- [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-i… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… tjw ietf
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… John R. Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ie… John R. Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ie… P Vix
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ie… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ie… John R. Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… John C Klensin
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] redefining SRV, New Version Not… John R. Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] redefining SRV, New Version Not… John R. Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… John R. Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] redefining SRV, New Version Not… Ray Bellis
- [DNSOP] Attrleaf _second-Level modifications (was… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] Attrleaf _second-Level modifications Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Attrleaf _second-Level modifica… John Levine
- [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-… John C Klensin
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… John C Klensin
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… John C Klensin
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… John R. Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… John C Klensin
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… Martin Hoffmann
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… Martin Hoffmann
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… John C Klensin
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… Kurt Andersen (b)
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… John R. Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… John C Klensin
- [DNSOP] _openpgpkey & _smimecert (was: Re: [art] … Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… Paul Vixie
- [DNSOP] namespace and substring reservations (was… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… Dave Crocker
- [DNSOP] Additional uses of underscore labels (was… Martin Hoffmann
- Re: [DNSOP] Additional uses of underscore labels Dave Crocker
- [DNSOP] End-to-end _underscore arguments (was: Re… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… John C Klensin
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… Adam Roach
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… John R. Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… John R. Levine