From nobody Tue Jun 1 07:06:08 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9BE3A1914 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 2021 07:06:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rBYmBXNu1OBs for ; Tue, 1 Jun 2021 07:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.nic.cl (mail.nic.cl [IPv6:2001:1398:1::6008]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20FC33A1912 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 2021 07:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.nic.cl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.nic.cl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E2F195D6E30; Tue, 1 Jun 2021 10:05:55 -0400 (-04) Received: from pepino (unknown [190.163.103.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.nic.cl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F2E30195D6E0A; Tue, 1 Jun 2021 10:05:54 -0400 (-04) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2021 10:05:53 -0400 From: Hugo Salgado To: Peter van Dijk Cc: dnsop@ietf.org Message-ID: <20210601140553.GA68051@pepino> References: <20210531161502.GA3679@pepino> <618cefb1-cc91-ba64-8959-0ffe92297991@time-travellers.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gKMricLos+KVdGMg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on Tue Jun 1 10:05:55 2021 -0400 (-04) (mail.nic.cl) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-salgado-dnsop-rrserial X-BeenThere: dnsop@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNSOP WG mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2021 14:06:06 -0000 --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13:20 01/06, Peter van Dijk wrote: > On Tue, 2021-06-01 at 08:59 +0200, Shane Kerr wrote: > > And maybe cache the value if desired? >=20 > I'm already looking forward to having serials in resolver cache dumps! >=20 > > At the very least, maybe the draft should be agnostic towards=20 > > non-authoritative servers? > >=20 > > So instead of: > >=20 > > This EDNS option is aimed only to authorative servers for a zone. > > Resolvers and forwarders should ignore the option. It's only > > intended for hop-to-hop communication (not transitive). > >=20 > > Maybe: > >=20 > > This EDNS option is aimed only at authoritative servers for a zone. > > It's only intended for hop-to-hop communication (not transitive). > > Resolver and forwarder behavior is undefined. >=20 > I like this. I suspect defining it well for answers from resolvers to > clients would open up a big can of worms that could kill the draft, > like many other drafts that have been crushed under the sheer weight of > scope creep. >=20 Yes, fair enough. Furthermore, the draft currently avoids talking about "client" and uses "querier", which from the authoritative point of view could be a debugging human or a resolver. Hugo --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEV6FHQYxbYRHTM+xJsO5EsOb06a0FAmC2PrwACgkQsO5EsOb0 6a2O+g//WZXvUQr0ZDQpC85BKxRxOPyRsbzUSQPOgkAW/Ev88n45DPsa/F+aL9uU 3NCx77BvD6gGqsRoWqmPTycOgIf4JDBbs0dpqEGgbyFo88veGw0RsDQk08sgA7Bj e3NqTwcsn/jUHIAHVA0sZwdx9Bp+tA6zGi7QJ59T3N3nr8c6bX0Bylmzs5/17fa9 NW2AGMAPNNmE+yLi7f5+lugCopQQhKNPzq4xooetaoix5joEdSyucQnaKjqNlcTg HsAR1cWr8ozW8edIFAhuGawBNz3EpnfdP6zkcTIX8fKl3OaCLBF29MSWF7+9r2j8 Bay/K2cdn+sLSXFQLZVDAvuhl3yCiOjI2+d9hkaYmesS588mPdIr83ZIvdParnQe gj3eBgRl2E4t9eP6AgGW4nujJXi4iluRNS5MLZR7R1jVeynb5PD39lLu36SCce2T euVQddlIhtCz+GTJ+oJSjUuahg+ubY4+nb3vYCY2qSyzquYEdSlLwm60zcJxg5mm ioqxJRLP6U0Ouuo1efaZhwpYUGZ0Ct1dY9pUf6DU6lfpKzPN3Rm0NPYo6PlMOo0B jh/Q1F0htwxx6vXmd0yPtZrYhLRlDYFqTez/l17K/rxJW6tCO9Cp7klsKIJWyjL3 rKvO0udKOQqmEzjGevkGF+Knadw+kUFKDQ2UI9gM5gzTJHD7b7U= =SmH3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gKMricLos+KVdGMg--