IETF Logo Mail Archive

[DNSOP] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion-10.txt

Joe Abley <jabley@strandkip.nl> Wed, 17 July 2024 19:52 UTC

Return-Path: <jabley@strandkip.nl>
X-Original-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0846BC151068 for <dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 17 Jul 2024 12:52:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.104
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.104 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=strandkip.nl
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nTVVT24TYT_y for <dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 17 Jul 2024 12:52:16 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from st43p00im-ztdg10073201.me.com (st43p00im-ztdg10073201.me.com [17.58.63.177]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A16EC15107E for <dnsop@ietf.org>; Wed, 17 Jul 2024 12:52:16 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=strandkip.nl; s=sig1; t=1721245935; bh=IyRFo8laAA7Oi27I3/N51JtXQ5hc+3h792msjxw0ZSQ=; h=Content-Type:From:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To; b=gaGBmhc+VA0TU1tLKCSejAoGnh1XQ9gaTtxfxzLixcjg9W+8ZnCgvNCGpGiChNGEM y3Xy9SLMkRAnfwuTbu1pcHVMhjhhFWefUELEclvBFQ7SsgBQ+34ha85keIczhpwa8C OUCBf6AsvR+ki2333sAvTzEw5RYOqBHmYl0M2hMq/nIbQPEvr7eqaR0XwRqtF/op2Q dBUfPED3fCb+iJ0PJJL7o8qqnAR3OoRGj0Gu5pXqpZ/CiJ1MYXMv1JdfRlDIEzFXp/ tE0VjkAFDlhgs5ju9XIsTJ6PLxdLUO62nFYhgUNfXl35ZqkdrqQtc7W90rIaPb4wg7 yjMtUMPGanywg==
Received: from smtpclient.apple (st43p00im-dlb-asmtp-mailmevip.me.com [17.42.251.41]) by st43p00im-ztdg10073201.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B3F8C9C0156; Wed, 17 Jul 2024 19:52:13 +0000 (UTC)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From: Joe Abley <jabley@strandkip.nl>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 21:52:01 +0200
Message-Id: <7152A5C9-3F71-4157-80E3-36E5447009DF@strandkip.nl>
References: <FD3C1248-2EC5-4599-8278-066255DEC16B@verisign.com>
In-Reply-To: <FD3C1248-2EC5-4599-8278-066255DEC16B@verisign.com>
To: "Wessels, Duane" <dwessels=40verisign.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (21F90)
X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: FEPSf21vI1qV2gxIMakMSCNxbOmReGQn
X-Proofpoint-GUID: FEPSf21vI1qV2gxIMakMSCNxbOmReGQn
X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=baseguard engine=ICAP:2.0.272,Aquarius:18.0.1039,Hydra:6.0.680,FMLib:17.12.28.16 definitions=2024-07-17_15,2024-07-17_02,2024-05-17_01
X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 bulkscore=0 phishscore=0 mlxscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxlogscore=943 adultscore=0 clxscore=1030 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.19.0-2308100000 definitions=main-2407170151
Message-ID-Hash: U4K6NWRY7WPM52U3P5KO6GUTCPLQ6ULX
X-Message-ID-Hash: U4K6NWRY7WPM52U3P5KO6GUTCPLQ6ULX
X-MailFrom: jabley@strandkip.nl
X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-dnsop.ietf.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header
CC: Philip Homburg <pch-dnsop-5@u-1.phicoh.com>, dnsop@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9rc4
Precedence: list
Subject: [DNSOP] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion-10.txt
List-Id: IETF DNSOP WG mailing list <dnsop.ietf.org>
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/Ssex10M4xPykO7St_zk9kpeguN8>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dnsop>
List-Help: <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Owner: <mailto:dnsop-owner@ietf.org>
List-Post: <mailto:dnsop@ietf.org>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:dnsop-join@ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:dnsop-leave@ietf.org>

On 17 Jul 2024, at 19:55, Wessels, Duane <dwessels=40verisign.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> Since every zone will have a SOA record,
> and every SOA record will have a serial value, I suppose the question
> becomes whether or not a serial number is “meaningful”.  I don’t know
> how a name server would determine meaningfulness.  

I agree this is a problem, and...

> What would be the harm in returning a SOA-SERIAL zone version if it
> were not supposedly meaningful?

... I think the easiest solution to this problem is not to deal with it. I think it does no harm for a value to be returned even if it is not meaningful. (Also meaningful is surely in the eye of the beholder.)


Joe

v2.45.0 | Report a Bug | By Email | System Status