Re: [DNSOP] .arpa
Richard Lamb <slamb@xtcn.com> Mon, 27 March 2017 00:12 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] .arpa
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+1 to all from frmr usgovie. We ain't that clever. On Wednesday, March 22, 2017, Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> wrote: > > > On 21 Mar 2017, at 14:53, Suzanne Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > RFC 3172 was written in 2001… > > RFC 3172 was an attempt to rewrite history and contrive an acronym: > Address and Routing Parameter Area - really? > > > Respectfully, I’ve always wondered who has this problem (US or non-US) > besides network infrastructure geeks Of a Certain Age (yes, including > myself, and many IETF participants). > > It's a convenient tool for those hostile to USG "control" of the Internet: > ie the US military is responsible for everything under .arpa, the US > military's ARPA has still got some special status in the > operation/development/control of the Internet, etc, etc. [And say things > like "if .arpa isn't for US military control, why can't the string be > changed?" or ".arpa hasn't been renamed since the Internet started 25-30 > years ago. That proves ARPA/DoD is in charge of the Internet.".] It's utter > nonsense of course. But that doesn't stop government officials and > policymakers from making these arguments. I have seen them do this many > times. Sigh. RFC3172 didn't make things better. > > _______________________________________________ > DNSOP mailing list > DNSOP@ietf.org <javascript:;> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop >
- [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Russ Housley
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Russ Housley
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Russ Housley
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Ralph Droms
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Paul Vixie
- [DNSOP] Fwd: WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-… Russ Housley
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Russ Housley
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Steve Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Steve Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Steve Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Philip Homburg
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Ralph Droms
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Ralph Droms
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Philip Homburg
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Ralph Droms
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Ralph Droms
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Jaap Akkerhuis
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Tim Chown
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Ralph Droms
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Tim Chown
- [DNSOP] .arpa Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Patrik Fältström
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Tim Chown
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Tim Chown
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Tim Chown
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ralph Droms
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] WG review of draft-ietf-homenet-dot-03 Matthew Pounsett
- [DNSOP] draft-ietf-homenet-dot review limits Re: … Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ralph Droms
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ralph Droms
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Matthew Pounsett
- [DNSOP] Homenet implementation plans by vendors? … Dan York
- Re: [DNSOP] Homenet implementation plans by vendo… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Homenet implementation plans by vendo… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Matt Larson
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ralph Droms
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Homenet implementation plans by vendo… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] Homenet implementation plans by vendo… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] Homenet implementation plans by vendo… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] Homenet implementation plans by vendo… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ralph Droms
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ozgur Karatas
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Richard Lamb
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Patrik Fältström
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Patrik Fältström
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] .arpa Suzanne Woolf