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I once write a full resolve that checked both sides of every delegation poi=
nt and remembered both sets of ns records=2E It would not have followed an =
ns to a non-soa=2E That would not be wrong=2E

On Dec 28, 2018, 14:27, at 1=
4:27, John Levine <johnl@taugh=2Ecom> wrote:
>In article
><2f50b5bd-ea7d-80=
09-f207-cce3cddf3bf5@spamtrap=2Etnetconsulting=2Enet> you
>write:
>>Both wo=
rk perfectly fine=2E  named-compilezone produces the expected
>lines=2E
>>
=
>>1=2Elocalhost=2E  604800  IN  CNAME  1=2Ebob=2Eexample=2Enet=2E
>>2=2Eloc=
alhost=2E  604800  IN  CNAME  2=2Ebob=2Eexample=2Enet=2E
>>3=2Elocalhost=2E=
  604800  IN  CNAME  3=2Ebob=2Eexample=2Enet=2E
>>4=2Elocalhost=2E  604800 =
 IN  CNAME  4=2Ebob=2Eexample=2Enet=2E
>>5=2Elocalhost=2E  604800  IN  NS  =
   ns1=2Eexample=2Ecom=2E
>>6=2Elocalhost=2E  604800  IN  NS     ns1=2Eexam=
ple=2Ecom=2E
>>7=2Elocalhost=2E  604800  IN  NS     ns1=2Eexample=2Ecom=2E
=
>>8=2Elocalhost=2E  604800  IN  NS     ns1=2Eexample=2Ecom=2E
>>
>>Which of=
 the two methods above is easier (or poses fewer questions) to
>
>>understa=
nd by someone who's not familiar with BIND, much less
>$GENERATE?
>
>I'd th=
ink it depends whether invalid delegations bother them, like if,
>say, ns1=
=2Eexample=2Ecom might not be running BIND=2E
>
>R's,
>John
>
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<html><head></head><body><div dir=3D"auto">I once write a full resolve that=
 checked both sides of every delegation point and remembered both sets of n=
s records=2E It would not have followed an ns to a non-soa=2E That would no=
t be wrong=2E</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote" >On Dec 28, 2018, at 14:27, =
John Levine &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:johnl@taugh=2Ecom" target=3D"_blank">john=
l@taugh=2Ecom</a>&gt; wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding=
-left: 1ex;">
<pre class=3D"blue">In article &lt;2f50b5bd-ea7d-8009-f207-cc=
e3cddf3bf5@spamtrap=2Etnetconsulting=2Enet&gt; you write:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px =
solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">Both work perfectly fine=2E  named-compi=
lezone produces the expected lines=2E<br><br>1=2Elocalhost=2E  604800  IN  =
CNAME  <a href=3D"http://1=2Ebob=2Eexample=2Enet">1=2Ebob=2Eexample=2Enet</=
a>=2E<br>2=2Elocalhost=2E  604800  IN  CNAME  <a href=3D"http://2=2Ebob=2Ee=
xample=2Enet">2=2Ebob=2Eexample=2Enet</a>=2E<br>3=2Elocalhost=2E  604800  I=
N  CNAME  <a href=3D"http://3=2Ebob=2Eexample=2Enet">3=2Ebob=2Eexample=2Ene=
t</a>=2E<br>4=2Elocalhost=2E  604800  IN  CNAME  <a href=3D"http://4=2Ebob=
=2Eexample=2Enet">4=2Ebob=2Eexample=2Enet</a>=2E<br>5=2Elocalhost=2E  60480=
0  IN  NS     <a href=3D"http://ns1=2Eexample=2Ecom">ns1=2Eexample=2Ecom</a=
>=2E<br>6=2Elocalhost=2E  604800  IN  NS     <a href=3D"http://ns1=2Eexampl=
e=2Ecom">ns1=2Eexample=2Ecom</a>=2E<br>7=2Elocalhost=2E  604800  IN  NS    =
 <a href=3D"http://ns1=2Eexample=2Ecom">ns1=2Eexample=2Ecom</a>=2E<br>8=2El=
ocalhost=2E  604800  IN  NS     <a href=3D"http://ns1=2Eexample=2Ecom">ns1=
=2Eexample=2Ecom</a>=2E<br><br>Which of the two methods above is easier (or=
 poses fewer questions) to <br>understand by someone who's not familiar wit=
h BIND, much less $GENERATE?<br></blockquote><br>I'd think it depends wheth=
er invalid delegations bother them, like if,<br>say, <a href=3D"http://ns1=
=2Eexample=2Ecom">ns1=2Eexample=2Ecom</a> might not be running BIND=2E<br><=
br>R's,<br>John<br><br><hr><br>DNSOP mailing list<br>DNSOP@ietf=2Eorg<br><a=
 href=3D"https://www=2Eietf=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/dnsop">https://www=2Eiet=
f=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/dnsop</a><br></pre></blockquote></div></body></htm=
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