Re: [DNSOP] Registration requirement (Was: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-02.txt)

"John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Mon, 10 April 2017 15:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Registration requirement (Was: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-02.txt)
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>So on reflection, I'm starting to wonder about instead going to the 
>lesser First Come First Served (Section 4.4 of the IANA draft).  This 
>should encourage early (pre-standards) registration.

I agree FCFS makes sense.  As you note the supply of names is
effectively unlimited, so squatting isn't a big deal.

>It also should cover established practice that doesn't provide the level 
>of documentation one would wish for.  Which fact you've nicely 
>documented next...

Right, we can add _spf and the enumservice names with hand waves about
the places they're sorta but not very well described.

R's,
John