[DNSOP] Accounting for Special Use Names in Application Protocols

Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Mon, 07 January 2019 22:42 UTC

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Subject: [DNSOP] Accounting for Special Use Names in Application Protocols
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Hi DNSOP,

In the HTTPWG, we have an open issue about how to account for .onion in HTTP URL processing:
  https://github.com/httpwg/http-core/issues/10

Our discussion led us to believe we'd do better to have a general statement about special-use names when dereferencing HTTP URLs.

It's possible such text might end up here:
  https://httpwg.org/http-core/draft-ietf-httpbis-semantics-latest.html#http.uri
... along with the following section on HTTPS, and of course in Security Considerations.

Do folks have thoughts about what it should say, and would any one be willing to help?

Cheers,

P.S. I haven't CC'd the HTTP WG to avoid issues with cross-posting; I'll point the WG at discussion here.

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