Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-wkumari-dnsop-extended-error

George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> Wed, 26 July 2017 00:16 UTC

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From: George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org>
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 10:16:36 +1000
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-wkumari-dnsop-extended-error
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my next draft will definitely include "....I'd like to thank Mark
Andrews for hitting me with a cluestick repeatedly WAIT WAIT WHY IS
THE ORCHESTRA STARTING OH MANNNNN"

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
>
> In message <CAKr6gn1JnndzwyqoESM_Ap5=Hgqt7RxXx9ZKWqY8FmDMcVZtDg@mail.gmail.com>, George Michaelson writ
> es:
>> read, support adoption.
>>
>> suggest that favourite band sections be marked 'RFC-ED REMOVE' because
>> the last time somebody thanked their mother, the backing band, their
>> agent, the producers, the other candidates for award... it wound up on
>> the ietf list and we don't want to go there.
>
> It went to the IETF mailing list because it was added in AUTH48.
> If I've read concensus of that discussion correctly there would
> have been no issue if it was added earlier in the process.  The
> problem was timing not content.
>
> Too many times IETF members take procedual decisions out of context
> and apply them elsewhere.  This is just one example of that.
>
>> I am unsure about the R flag and proscriptive language. It seems to me
>> that it can't be a single bit flag and suggest BOTH retry, and retry
>> another NS. Also, the rest of the flag word is set zero. Surely thats
>> '...at this time'
>>
>> And then the list of when to set, maybe set, maybe not set.. I think
>> thats still a bit up in the air.
>>
>> But thats now WG matter to discuss I guess (assuming it got adopted)
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 5:46 AM, Peter DeVries
>> <pdevries@quotient-inc.com> wrote:
>> > I have read the draft and support adoption.  I plan to review and
>> > contribute.
>> >
>> > Peter
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:04 PM, tjw ietf <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> This draft was the only one which seemed to have broad support in some
>> >> form during the meeting last week.
>> >>
>> >> This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-wkumari-dnsop-extended-error
>> >>
>> >> The draft is available here:
>> >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wkumari-dnsop-extended-error-02
>> >>
>> >> Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoption
>> >> by DNSOP, and comments to the list, clearly stating your view.
>> >>
>> >> Please also indicate if you are willing to contribute text, review, etc.
>> >>
>> >> This call for adoption ends: 8 August 2017, 23:59
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> tim wicinski
>> >> DNSOP co-chair
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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