Re: [DNSOP] Deprecating infrastructure .INT domains

Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 12 November 2021 13:21 UTC

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From: Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2021 08:20:49 -0500
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Deprecating infrastructure .INT domains
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I agree with Petr here.

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 7:56 AM Petr Špaček <pspacek@isc.org> wrote:

> On 11. 11. 21 17:56, Joe Abley wrote:
> > Hi Kim,
> >
> > I like the idea of cleaning this up.
> >
> > Choosing nsap.int as an example, I think it would be useful to either
> update RFC 1706 to make it clear that the advice in section 6 of that
> document no longer applies, and that no reverse mapping for NSAP is
> provided in the DNS. I don't think this is a great operational necessity
> since I imagine the number of people who expect this to work is
> approximately zero but it seems good to be tidy.
> >
> > [I'd suggest reclassifying 1706 to historic but that'd also affect the
> specification for the NSAP RRType; maybe that's a good idea too, but it
> seems outside the scope of what you are trying to achieve, and I don't know
> how we would confirm that it's a good idea.]
> >
> > Similar comment for other domains where there's similar existing advice.
>
> FTR I can't see any problems with that, and suggest to do that in one go
> in this document. We have enough RFCs already and wasting more numbers
> (and work) on simple deprecation does not sound useful to me.
>
> Petr Špaček
>
>
> >
> > Happy to offer actual text if that seems useful.
> >
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >> On 11 Nov 2021, at 11:38, Kim Davies <kim.davies@iana.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Colleagues,
> >>
> >> I wanted to draw your attention to an Internet Draft we’ve developed,
> >> its goal is to formally deprecate a number of historic “.int”
> >> domains that were designated for Internet infrastructure purposes
> >> decades ago and appear for all intents and purposes obsolete. After some
> >> limited consultation on developing the approach so far, it would be
> >> useful to get some additional eyes on it so we have greater confidence
> >> there is nothing we’ve missed.
> >>
> >> Datatracker link:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-davies-int-historic/
> >>
> >> It’s a short document, but at its heart we’ve identified the
> >> following domains that are referenced in places but seem to be obsolete:
> >>
> >>              atma.int, ip4.int, nsap.int, rdi.int, reg.int, tpc.int
> >>
> >> Most of these are not delegated in the int zone any longer, but there
> >> are lingering references to them.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance for any insight, and apologies if you get this message
> >> in duplicate,
>
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