Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-13.txt

Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca> Thu, 24 June 2021 21:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-13.txt
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On Jun 24, 2021, at 14:37, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:

> It appears that Ben Schwartz  <bemasc@google.com> said:
>> I think the "Privacy Considerations" section should probably mention QNAME
>> minimization, which ought to help a little.
> 
> I'd also like it to say more clearly up front that .ALT is for names that are
> totally outside the DNS protocols, not for names handled locally using DNS protocols.
> It's for things like .onion, not like .local.

Both .onion and .local use protocols other than the DNS, acknowledging of course that the protocol used for names under .local is quite DNS-like.

More generally, if the intention of the .ALT proposal is to anchor namespaces that don't use the DNS protocol then I'm confused. I thought it was intended exactly to anchor namespaces that use the DNS protocol, just in a way that deliberately didn't provide any guarantee of uniqueness. The -13 text says otherwise in the introduction, however, so either my memory is more faulty than I thought or the direction has changed.

Did I miss the conversation where the working group decided to pivot? (Not a rhetorical question! I am very prepared for the answer to be yes :-) If anybody has a handy pointer to the relevant part of the mailing list archive I'd appreciate it.

ObReviewContribution: the authors list includes one A. Sullivan; let it be known that Mr Sullivan no longer works for Oracle.


Joe