[DNSOP] 答复: a fragmented and uncooperative Internet

Davey Song(宋林健) <ljsong@biigroup.cn> Thu, 21 September 2017 09:26 UTC

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OK. I finally understand the context of the word " Darwinism " in many IETF discussion and slides. Haha~

Davey
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Jim Reid [mailto:jim@rfc1035.com]
> 发送时间: 2017年9月21日 15:22
> 收件人: "Davey Song(宋林健)"
> 抄送: Paul Vixie; dnsop WG
> 主题: a fragmented and uncooperative Internet
> 
> 
> > On 21 Sep 2017, at 08:08, Davey Song(宋林健) <ljsong@biigroup.cn> wrote:
> >
> > In another word, we are facing the fragmented and uncooperative Internet.
> What should we do ?
> 
> Switch it off? Hand it over to ITU control? :-)
> 
> The Internet was designed from the outset to work around breakage. Packet
> fragmentation issues will always be with us unfortunately. The networks which
> have these problems will fix them: Darwinism will take care of that eventually.
> Until then everyone else just has to work around them or ignore their
> brokenness. 'coz that's how it works.
> 
> We (for some definition of we) might come up with some tools to help identify
> the problem or do some outreach and education to help mend these broken
> networks. However I am sceptical those sort of things will be successful. After
> all we still have nets, servers and middleboxes that can't/won't handle EDNS
> correctly or assume that DNS packets only ever go over UDP and are always <
> 512 bytes.